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Coyote Musings
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his coat the same brown
as the dust from which he rises

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What is the sound of one hand slapping Schroedinger's cat?

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The Quantum Duck goes "quark, quark."

September 2010
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Missing Left Sock Beast [userpic]

Harlan chimes in.

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Aw, they didn't include


How's chances of me playing either the "I'm an old man and my brain is leaking out of my ass" card ... or ... even better ...

"I'm an old Jew and this is just another example of anti-Semitism because all you goyim are pissed that Jews really DO control the whole world."

I can go either way.

Yr. pal, Harlan


in the list of boneheaded crap he spewed.

I love non-apology apologies, don't you?

Yeah, but it's Harlan. He shouldn't have done it in the first place, but at least he's agreeing with the people who say he was wrong.

Yes. I think an actual apology is owed Connie Willis. Unfortunately, I think the rest of us are going to have to suck it up and accept that what we got is the best we're going to get.

Except I see a good deal of the non-apology apology as him being more sorry that people were offended and that they all stood up and said that what he did was wrong than any real contrition for his actions. In other words, he's only apologizing because he's being made to, not because he feels any real remorse.

I do agree that we're going to have to suck it up and accept that what we got is the best we're going to get--and hopefully con organizers will think long and hard before inviting him to participate in a con ever again. Not necessarily blackballing him from attending, but not catering to his childish behavior and certainly not giving him a podium.

Also, and not exactly on this topic, but you really should read (at the very least) "A Boy and His Dog" and "'Repent! Harlequin' said the Ticktock Man". You know. Get a collection of Harlan stories from the library and read those two (Frankly, that's about all the Ellison I can stand).

Consider it fair trade for him pointing out to LKH that she's a Mary-Sue Romance Novelist, not a Fantasy Writer. ;)

Oh, so the "I'm the magical happy man who lives in a gumdrop house on lollipop lane!" vibe I was getting from that "apology" was actually sincerity? I don't read the man's work, I can't tell when he's being sarcastic or not, but I got the feeling that was an overly inflated jab at someone who dared write to him, demanding an apology for his reprehensible behavior.

I think it was a combination of all of those things. scendan has contact with the Willis family, and makes mention of things here.

Also, I do recommend reading "A Boy and His Dog" and "'Repent! Harlequin.' said the Ticktock Man" even if you never read any other Ellison. Although, truthfully, like Asimov his strength is really in his essays more than his fiction. I've got I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream and can't ever seem to get more than halfway through it.

And after that, I understand that the Doomsday Book by Willis is worth reading; I enjoyed To Say Nothing of the Dog, but that's the only Willis I've read.

Check the Ellison out of the library, buy the Willis. ;)

So sincere and satisfying.

I'm not sure that had been posted when the original notification apology was posted.

As the saying goes, Oy Gevalt.

I don't get it.

Everyone is appalled. An apology is demanded. He gives one. "It's not a real apology!" What? Hasn't anyone actually ever Ellison</i>? This is very typical and true to his nature. It couldn't possibly be more authentic. If he wrote something serious and sober, it would be by definition insincere.

Might I also point out that none of us know what he said or what message he left for Willis.

My personal feelings about this is: Ellison's antics have never been any great secret. They have certainly not mellowed with age. Everyone who knows anything about Harlan Ellison knows this. So why would anyone select this unpredictable, opinionated hot-head with more trickster in him than Loki ever thought of having as a presenter at an awards ceremony?

Don't blame Ellison for being Ellison. Blame the SFWA for thinking that contrary to many decades of history, Ellison could conceivably be someone else.

I've always thought that the one thing I wish they'd change on LJ is the ability to edit comments. Particularly when you've so royally screwed up html tags.

You did see my comment above about what "we" got versus what I hope Connie Willis got, right?